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05 September 2006 @ 02:45 pm
"Virtual Monday" Randomness  
First, still unspoiled for yesterday's "Prison Break." Haven't watched the tape yet.

I've got the day off, and while everyone's out of the house... I'm sneaking through the books and toys and packing stuff up for Goodwill and the library. This can ONLY be done while the kids are gone, as I'm sure every parent here knows. Five Goodwill bags, two boxes of books. I'd love to make a dent in the kids' enormous collection of stuffed toys, but since they both have photographic-stuffy-toy memories, that is not going to happen. Christopher can remember little creatures in the bottom of the basket in his room that have not seen daylight for five months. *Sigh* I did have some set aside and hidden downstairs for a, um, fandom project. But he noticed them missing and it caused him stress, so back they went. Rats. :(

Spent part of the weekend participating in a discussion where another LJ person believes that I (and certain other LJ members) are part of some malicious conspiracy because we maintain that "whinge" is considered British, and is best avoided in fanfic for American-based shows. *throws up hands* Whatever, dude.

Saw Little Miss Sunshine, which was just hilarious. Our local movie critic was bothered that it was RATED R! Because it features unsuitable family material, but it's a family movie! Ummm.... not that kind of family movie. I sometimes think people just don't get that Dark Humor is not General Humor. In any case, 1) The movie puts the "fun" in dysfunctional (and also the "dis", according to my husband) and 2) Alan Arkin will just never stop being funny, I swear to god. I haven't had so many belly laughs coaxed out of me in I can't remember when.

Rewatched "This is Spinal Tap" again. I have such love for that movie, especially the glorious obtuseness of Nigel (Christopher Guest). Plus, there's that poisonous girlfriend of the other main band member, and speaking of which...

Saw a trailer for "The U.S. Vs. John Lennon," and even after all these years the sight of Yoko Ono makes my husband clench his teeth and growl. I'm guessing Kim will understand that one... ;)
I'm the girl that you just won't admit you adore.: amitabularassa on September 5th, 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
I want to watch Little Miss Sunshine as well. Heard it was good:)

Hope you've enjoyed your day off.

The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: PB Final Hughalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 02:19 am (UTC)
It really is a riot. The teenaged brother just kills me, apart from all the other random funniness in it. :D

I've figured out the critic's problem: movies ABOUT families are not necessarily family movies. Apparently, she doesn't realize that. :0
I'm the girl that you just won't admit you adore.: wtabularassa on September 6th, 2006 03:13 am (UTC)
LOL That is very true. In reality, most families would at least be rated R.
★彡 artificial nocturne.: extraordinary machineusagiko on September 5th, 2006 10:23 pm (UTC)
PB last night was fanfuckingtastic. Seriously. >_
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: PB Casthalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 02:20 am (UTC)
I can't hear you... La-la-la-la. After "House" and my SN fic deadline (please let me finish today!), I'm going to watch it.
★彡 artificial nocturne.: big pimpin hugh laurieusagiko on September 6th, 2006 03:16 am (UTC)
I know, that's how I was last night when a Japanese friend who's also a hardcore PB fan started spoiling. x_x I feel you. <3
I'm for wine and the embrace of questionable women: assmissyjack on September 6th, 2006 12:04 am (UTC)
The "whinge" thing is hilarious becuase in Australia, English are referred to as "whingeing Poms" .
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 02:22 am (UTC)
I can almost hear the Brits on my f-list going, "We are NOT! Wait, what's a Pom?"

Unless that's shared slang as well. ;)

Short for Pompous? Not Pom-pom, I hope (that would be stupid). Or pomegranate. Or pompadour (helloooo Elvis).
I'm for wine and the embrace of questionable womenmissyjack on September 6th, 2006 02:34 am (UTC)
*g* I wouldn't never use such a phrase ;) And of course it wouldn't apply to any of the wonderful English people on your (or my) F-list.

They'd know the term Pom (or Pommy bastard!). It's a term of affection used by Australians ;) Origin is generally thought to date back to convict era as an acronym for Prisoner of Her Majesty or Prisoner of Mother England. Most commonly still used by Australians of all ages in reference to the English cricket team (the Poms).

Here endeth the cultural exchange.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
Prisoner of Mother England.

Gee, why don't you just use Saesneg or Sassenach or something of that ilk? ;) ;) I can never remember the Irish one.
I'm for wine and the embrace of questionable women: crocmissyjack on September 6th, 2006 06:53 am (UTC)
Coz we just have to be different !
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 08:48 pm (UTC)
Oh, Steve... Steve... What a sad and unfitting end for you.

You'll be missed, by crikey. Foster's lager and a Giant Lobster display to you, mate.
mooyoo: V - Applausemooyoo on September 6th, 2006 02:58 am (UTC)
Heh, I was always the kid who refused to let anything be thrown away, ever. Drove my mom nuts.

I don't even know what "whinge" means. Is it like "whine"? I see it every so often, but it's definitely not a generally American-used word.

I adored Little Miss Sunshine. So fantastic. Oddly, it's gotten some terrible reviews, but has become one of the most popular movies of the summer. The cast was absolutely perfect - the teenage son bugged me a bit at first for some reason, but he turned out to be possibly the best one. And Steve Carell - love.

Ah! Spinal Tap! So much love. Christopher Guest is just brilliant. The Princess Bride is my all time favorite movie, and it was a long time before I realized that Count Rugen is also Nigel (and Harlan Pepper in Best in Show, etc etc). He pulls off so many completely different characters so perfectly. Haven't watched that one in a while, must go pull it off the shelf...
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 06:38 am (UTC)
Drove my mom nuts.
Wonder if it drove her to stealth as well? ;) I'm getting way too much experience at that.

I don't even know what "whinge" means. Is it like "whine"?
It's sometimes translated as being that, but I wonder if it isn't a little more vehement. Seems to mean constant complaining, so that would be more like carping or bitching to me.

the teenage son bugged me a bit at first for some reason, but he turned out to be possibly the best one. And Steve Carell - love.
I loved the little girl, just because you couldn't NOT love her. So sunny and irrepressible. But the teenaged son WAS my favorite-- mostly his exchanges with the uncle (Steve Carroll). And then there's the aggressively anarchistic grandpa. So wrong, so bad-- and so funny.

and it was a long time before I realized that Count Rugen is also Nigel
Guest is so different in those two roles. Count Rugen is so silky and scheming, and Nigel is just... "Nah, I don't like it. Because then you have this, and I don't want this do I? Then you have to fold the bread, and everything keeps folding, and then it breaks." I ached for the band manager listening to that part. *thud*
The Good, The Bad and The Lana: blade vampire kristathelana on September 6th, 2006 09:50 am (UTC)
Darn, I really have to see Little Miss Sunshine, everybody is raving for it.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
It is far more bizarre than I ever would have imagined, I kid you not.

And just evil-funny in so many ways. :D

Run for the theater! Run...
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on September 6th, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC)
I remember mooyoo and jules1013 raving about it :) I'll try to catch but I doubt I'll be able to before Monday (when I'll be on vacation).
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The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on September 6th, 2006 09:12 pm (UTC)
I'd think that if a couple of people have issues with the use of a particular word it should probably be changed - just because technically it could possibly be right doesn't mean it fits.
That's my thought on that as well.

I really don't care to jar readers with 'off' word choices-- especially ones like that, which just point in the wrong direction. The author was a little offended that I initially thought she was British, but she'd put "torch" and "whinged" in her fic, and both of those are red-flag Briticisms.

I guess the difference is that I'm not interested in pushing the boundaries of what words I might be able to get away with. I definitely err on the side of caution there. I mean, Dean probably has heard of the word "erudite" and maybe even knows what it means. Would he ever use it? Or even think it? Hell no.

It's always difficult when you're concriting fic, because a lot of people immediately fly on the defensive and that's never fun (me; I weep, wail and rant. Then I come back to the computer, suck it up and take the advice given on board because it's the best way to get better).
Well, that's the other side of things as I've come to learn (from that meta on "what kind of comments do you like to receive?").

I'm on the side of, if I get a concrit (something real, not "Eww! Slash is evil!") I'm going to seriously think about it. And likely, I'm going to change it. I've had some minor stuff, and some really valuable stuff come to me (everything from "double period here" to "I lost track of who's talking," or "Men crying tends to throw me out of a story").

So not only am I likely to change it, I am entirely likely to go back and re-read something I wrote months later and alter a word or a phrase because they now seem wrong (and I realize that almost no-one else does that).

Some people, though, tend more toward "Once I post it, I'm done. If someone finds a typo, I'll probably fix it-- but that's it." Those people don't really want concrit, if they're at the extreme end of the scale.

And other people simply are either "tone-deaf" or don't value that as a component of fic. Heck-- they are way down the list from people who don't value verb-noun or tense-agreements. There are just all kinds of things that aren't on everyone's radar.

But... since I can't know where people fall (until I've crossed the line, unfortunately), all I can do is offer them what I'd like to receive myself. And try to word it as kindly as possible. Sadly, it appears that if they weren't expecting/don't-want that kind of comments, then anything I say comes off as presumptuous and possibly also patronizing. *sigh*

One person's "reasonable discussion tone" is another person's "patronizing" or "aggressive." I've seen it happen to others as well. (thelana will know what I'm talking about there)

So you don't use "whinge" in Scotland? Well, going the other way then, I have this piece of curiosity: does anyone OTHER than the Scots use "chuffing"? Any of the other Brits?

Oh, and "Little Miss Sunshine" is evil-funny. Half-demented, really. ;)