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04 December 2014 @ 12:10 am
Elementary, my dear Watson...  
When Elementary was first announced, I was leery of it. Everybody and his cousin seemed to be Sherlocking on multiple continents, and I was certain that the female Watson was a way of dodging the slashy undertones of other recent Sherlock incarnations.

We started watching the show near the end of the first or second season, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that the show wasn't playing up any real attraction angle between the two main characters, and also... Lucy Liu is a really awesome Watson. She has a peculiar fashion sense (ankle boots with skirts/dresses does not look good), but the quirkiness of it is very consistent. She is smart, more patient with Sherlock than he really deserves, and gloriously competent. I like the cast very much.

Our son wandered in near the end of one of the episodes, and commented that a black Sherlock was inevitable. THAT, of course, opened the door to one of our favorite activities, "Rolecasting." Given that Sherlock should probably be in his mid-thirties to early 50s, who would make a good Sherlock? Many of the obvious choices (Denzel, Samuel) are too old. Courtney B. Vance came up (we have a soft spot for him). On the way to work today, I realized that the young Andre Braugher would be an excellent choice (heck, the current one too, but for the extra weight). Braugher's work on Homicide showed he has all the stuff to be ultra-smart, intense, and offputting in that especially Sherlockian way. I mean, I watched two seasons of Homicide (a show I did not like) just for Andre Braugher's acting!

I thought of Idris Elba, mostly because I always think of Idris Elba. Good casting choice, or just wishful thinking because of All The Handsomeness? Morris Chestnut is definitely along the lines of the Handsome and the Voice, too. I think either of them could pull it off.

Giancarlo Esposito could pass for 50-ish pretty easily, and would make an excellent Sherlock. Triple-smart, versatile, and capable of darker roles. Not that Sherlock is necessarily "dark," but you have to be willing to be over-the-line obnoxious (insufferable, really) to carry off the character. Esposito would go the distance.

Well, now that I've talked about it, I think the whole thing is overdue! Why isn't someone already making this?

Who would you cast for the part?

 
 
 
Vice Captain of the Universesweeny_todd on December 4th, 2014 01:03 pm (UTC)
Idris Elba is so Very Very Gorgeous.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Lutherhalfshellvenus on December 4th, 2014 05:56 pm (UTC)
It's "Luther" that really spoiled me.

In the tweed, with the scruff, and the intelligence, and the broodiness?

*dies*
Didn't want to be: Wufkinsanyonesghost on December 4th, 2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
David Harewood. I think he'd fit the role in a more traditional sense, rather than the "somewhat damaged" approach taken by Miller, Cumberbatch, and even Downey Jr. ... but I think he'd manage the gravitas and the humor equally.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on December 4th, 2014 08:50 pm (UTC)
I actually prefer the more damaged Sherlock, because it offers balance to the "know-it-all" aspect of his personality!

I had to look Harewood up (I immediately wondered if he might be Dorian Harewood's son, but no-- wrong continent). I wasn't really restricting the notion to Brits, but Harewood made me think of Colin Salmon (definite yes) and then I always forget that EamonnWalker is secretly British, since I first saw him on "Oz." Walker could definitely do it as well.

So many choices. Which means this definitely should become a real thing. :D
angels3angels3 on December 4th, 2014 08:16 pm (UTC)
Michael Ealy, Morris Chestnut, Michael Jai White.

Of course I'm basing that mostly on looks :) although M. White plays a lot of bad guys.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Lutherhalfshellvenus on December 4th, 2014 08:53 pm (UTC)
:D

I've tried not to just pick the good-looking actors. Neither Cumberbatch nor Miller are good-looking to me (though I would listen to Cumberbatch talk forever).

Michael Ealy doesn't seem to have the gravitas. I think Chestnut could (I see you're a fan as well!). I'm not familiar with Michael Jai White, though his bio indicates that he might be a character actor-- and that would typically be a really good choice for Sherlock.
angels3angels3 on December 4th, 2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
Ah but sometimes the actors need a chance at those parts to really stretch themselves and rise to the material.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on December 4th, 2014 09:39 pm (UTC)
:D I like your thinking.

One likes to think that's what auditions are for. Sure, someone might never have done that type of work before, but they could be quite capable.

Tom Hanks--formerly just a standup comic, and now better known as a dramatic actor.

Oprah Winfrey-- a talk show host, who has proved she has the stuff for serious parts. Her work in The Butler leaves no doubt.

So, does that mean I can go back to dreaming about Idris Elba as Sherlock again? :D
angels3angels3 on December 4th, 2014 09:49 pm (UTC)
Most definitely and my oldest will be dreaming right along with you. She finds him sexy.
Rebeccabeeker121 on December 4th, 2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
How about DB Woodside (otherwise known as Principal Wood in Buffy, though his credit list contains so many other things).

Mmm, Andre Braugher should be in everything as far as I am concerned. Do you watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine? I debated before the first season but decided that the Braugher love outweighed the Sandberg disinterest and am so glad I chose to watch - the whole ensemble is wonderful but Capt Holt makes the show for me.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on December 4th, 2014 11:18 pm (UTC)
I thought about DB Woodside, who is really good and obviously smart enough for the role. Not sure how he'd be at playing really unfriendly characters, but I'm sure he could manage it.

Hahaha-- I tried to watch Brooklyn 99 when I remembered that Braugher was in it, but my intense dislike for Andy Samberg made that hard. Plus, my husband hates Samberg, so my list of "shows I can only watch without my husband" would have grown by one. I gave up on it instead. I might regret it. All the Andre is my motto!
Rebeccabeeker121 on December 4th, 2014 11:30 pm (UTC)
I get that one can only watch so many shows w/o husband, I only have a few and would be wary of adding.

I completely get avoiding the Samberg but Braugher's deadpan is a thing of beauty, and most often the show focuses on the ensemble. I am still working on the complete Braugher oeuvre, imdb is a dangerous thing for people who like to make lists and check things off, but someday I'll get there.
cindy: da - alec's thinky facetsuki_no_bara on December 5th, 2014 02:38 am (UTC)
oh man, i would so watch a sherlock with a younger andre braugher. he could do that so well - he can play smartest-man-in-the-room and insufferable and weirdly socialized/antisocial, and i think of him as kind of an american idris elba in the sense that he should be in everything all the time.

i think giancarlo esposito might be a hair too old and a hair too smooth - i might have imprinted particularly hard on jonny lee miller's sherlock, but i think of the guy as having kind of rough, jagged edges. also, thanks to breaking bad i can't look at giancarlo as anything other than a drug lord now. i really like him, tho, as an actor.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on December 5th, 2014 03:31 am (UTC)
I know, wouldn't Andre Braugher be awesome? Man.

I think with the gray in his hair covered up, Giancarlo Esposito could pass for 45-50, and having not seen Breaking Bad... the thing that made me think of him was actually his work as the genie in "Once Upon a Time," back when I was still watching it. Brooding, smart, resentful...

I know he can be smooth, but I don't think of that as his only mode. I think I first noticed him in a wonderful, short-lived comedy called "Bakersfield P.D.," where he was the straight man to all kinds of random nuttiness. I sure wish Netflix would stream that show!
Elizabethwatching_ships on December 11th, 2014 08:18 pm (UTC)
100% agree with this. Andre has my vote.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on December 11th, 2014 10:42 pm (UTC)
I would love to see him do this. But I'll bet Hollywood hasn't thought about even the idea, yet.