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03 June 2014 @ 10:31 pm
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Courtesy of my son: Bacon-Flavored Ritz Crackers are a thing that exists. And they are smoky goodness. You're welcome. :D

We're going on vacation in a week, so I'm trying to get work stuff squared away. Meanwhile, another Idol topic has come up, and this one leaves me with no good ideas at all:

Recency bias


As in, a bias toward recent trends/ideas/etc.

If you have suggestions, please leave them in the comments below!

We finished watching the last episode of this season's Justified, which was a continued installment of 'Meh'. If this coming year is the final one for the show, I'm afraid that what I want to see isn't where things will actually go. I'd like to see Boyd redeemed, as in, putting crime behind him and using his smarts for good and not for evil. There is no chance in hell that the show will go there, though. I think it'll circle around toward the Pilot all over again, and come to a painful resolution of the finale it avoided the first time around. :( I think the other would actually be more interesting though—let Raylan be persuasive for a change, and let them both grow up a little.

Aren't delusions fun? If I'd had my way, Burn Notice would have veered off in a completely different direction around S5, and everyone would have been MUCH happier with that. It's a sad thing when you hate the final season of a show you've loved. Yes, I'm looking at you Buffy...

 
 
 
angels3angels3 on June 4th, 2014 05:52 am (UTC)
As if I couldn't stop eating them before, now you give me BACON flavored one. GAHHHH
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:55 am (UTC)
I know! They were already addictive, but the bacon ones? Gaaaah! Good thing my son bought them with his own money, or I would have eaten the whole box by now.

"Smoky" is one of my weaknesses.
Port: joan and sherlock are confuseddesertport on June 4th, 2014 06:40 am (UTC)
Recency bias, interesting! Maybe go back in time to a character who's exhibiting one that's currently out of favor?
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:46 pm (UTC)
That could be interesting!

Glad you're hanging in there as the job (*sniff*) fades off. I sure hope you find something else soon.
Portdesertport on June 5th, 2014 07:06 am (UTC)
Thanks! It's not so bad. I feel like I should be more stressed, but it's been coming for so long that I'm just like, "Okay, what's next?" Which makes me feel very Bartlett-y, and that is always cool.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with the prompt!
alien_writings: Glowing Brainalien_writings on June 4th, 2014 09:28 am (UTC)
Ugh, the current topic! D: Maybe the following thoughts will help?

My first thought was something about a phony psychic who seemed to have powers because they were predicting something about a trend that happened to be occurring, until one day it didn't, and they were exposed for being a fraud. Or else they just happened to correctly predict things until one day... not so much.

The other thing I thought of, which is just silly, is the story of the Thanksgiving turkey that we learned in, like, elementary school. From what I remember, the turkey thought it would keep living because each day it was allowed to live but then Thanksgiving happens, and the trend of not dying is broken.

Maybe something about an evil high school clique leader who has a major popularity fall after high school and isn't prepared for college life because they mistakenly think things will continue to be socially like high school, but they're not Top Dog in college? Or else they fall during high school because one of the unpopular kids gets revenge and exposes an embarrassing secret of theirs?

ETA: I can also imagine a story about a bisexual person who gets into a relationship with someone of either the opposite or same gender, and everyone assumes they're straight/gay rather than bi now because of who they're currently with, never mind that you can be in a relationship with one person and still be bi.

May I say again how this topic is terrible?

Edited at 2014-06-04 02:52 pm (UTC)
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:49 pm (UTC)
You know, if YOU say a topic is terrible, I know it is!

Because you always have a gazillion amazing ideas for everything, and if the topic thwarts rather than inspires, I feel as if I have ultimate objective "No" on it!

I'm sure people will find great stories to write with it, it's more that I'm struggling to find either a story that I think would be any good and/or one I actually want to write! For someone else, that might be completely easy, but this one isn't doing it for me. Funny how individually these things strike us.

I'm going to ponder on your ideas, because the awesome is always embedded in them and I've used them many a time! ♥
alien_writings: Glowing Brainalien_writings on June 4th, 2014 06:08 pm (UTC)
If you didn't see it in the Green Room, I posted an idea there about an oppressive dictator who thinks they'll stay in power forever but gets overthrown by an actually effective rebellion (as opposed to the ineffective ones they've dealt with in the past).

I hope my ideas will be helpful even if the topic wasn't the most inspiring one in the universe. I'm glad they've been so useful to you for previous topics. ♥
Kizzyxo_kizzy_xo on June 4th, 2014 11:04 am (UTC)
I have nothing for the topic either, but think of a pendulum in that things never stay static. If something goes down, it must come up, like real estate prices. Or...the more things change, the more they stay the same? That could be an interesting tack. Maybe you could revisit a piece from, say, last season?



Edited at 2014-06-04 11:09 am (UTC)
alien_writings: Glowing Brainalien_writings on June 4th, 2014 02:57 pm (UTC)
To add to this comment, if you DO decide to revisit a piece from last season, I'd totally want to see something from the SATED verse. It would fit the topic because the SATED people want things to stay the same and probably want to pretend that their world was what it was always like?

Or else you could do something from the transition period where modern society was apparently going along just fine and people didn't expect that to change and the SATED people to take over? Or do a piece about a threat to the SATED way of life, like a rebellion or something like that?
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:52 pm (UTC)
Hee-hee-hee! As soon as I saw Kizzy's comment, I was pretty sure I'd see this response from you. :D

I wonder if other people like the SATED universe as much, though? Every now and then I feel like I can go back there with a prompt and do something awesome, and not retread or feel like I have to re-exposition the whole thing. But that part is tricky.

I'll think about these, too. Thanks so much for your awesome ideas!
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:50 pm (UTC)
I like the pendulum approach. I wonder if I could work that in a way that would make the prompt obvious to readers? That's always the issue.
Kizzyxo_kizzy_xo on June 4th, 2014 06:29 pm (UTC)
I like the pendulum approach too. For some reason it's screaming "fiction" to me, but now to think of an approach...

See, this is where I wish I had something like alien_writings's imagination!

Edited at 2014-06-04 06:31 pm (UTC)
Every Day Above Groundmallorys_camera on June 4th, 2014 11:19 am (UTC)
Actually, "recency bias" is not a bias toward recent trends. It's a very specific psychological testing term that refers to the subject's tendency to remember the beginning and the end of a series but not the middle. :-)

Kellykajel on June 4th, 2014 11:34 am (UTC)
From what I understand, the definition you use here is Recency Effect. Though, in my research I have seen one or two articles that use the terms interchangeably.
Every Day Above Groundmallorys_camera on June 4th, 2014 11:37 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm not bringing it up to show off my immense store of knowledge!! :-) I'm bringing it up because halfshellvenus noted she was struggling with it, and I thought perhaps she'd have an easier time writing about selective memory. :-)
Kellykajel on June 4th, 2014 12:00 pm (UTC)
lol Just making sure the definition that was being used and talked about in the work room wasn't wrong. I am having a hard enough time with this topic as it is! ;)
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:55 pm (UTC)
Yes, I've had the same thoughts. I know they are different things, but since the prompt IS also just words and doesn't have to suit the popular meaning (of this recently invented term), I can see Recency Effect being a legitimate interpretation of the other.

And the other is a LOT harder to work with. Urgh.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:54 pm (UTC)
I saw n3m3sis43 talking about Recency Effect in the Work Room, and that seemed a LOT more workable that recency bias.

Plus, they're closely-related enough that I think you could do either one.

Thanks for chiming in!
alien_writings: Glowing Brainalien_writings on June 5th, 2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
The Recency Effect version makes me think of a fictional president whom everyone remembers as the Best President Ever(tm) because the beginning and end of their term(s) were successful-seeming, but the president in question was actually mediocre to terrible during the majority of their presidency and nobody remembers this because of the Recency Effect.

For some reason, this topic is kind of making me think of political things, which is sort of odd as I'm not usually that political a writer.

In a non-political direction for the Recency Effect version, you could do the same sort of plot about some entertainer or sports star whom everyone loves even though they had terrible scandals and/or terrible performances/scoring during the middle of their career? Nobody would remember the terrible things because of the Recency Effect.

Maybe these thoughts could possibly spark something?
Kizzyxo_kizzy_xo on June 4th, 2014 06:33 pm (UTC)
Ahhh...between selective memory and what you said upthread about not remembering the middle of things...hmmm...

Yep, this is definitely screaming "Idol Meta" to me. Now, whether I choose to write on that is a whole other story.
n3m3sis43n3m3sis43 on June 4th, 2014 06:01 pm (UTC)
It's called Recency Effect, but it is a type of cognitive bias. So I think it fits. But no one ever accused me of sticking too close to a topic. XD
Desireex_disturbed_x on June 4th, 2014 11:48 am (UTC)
I'm still not over the last season of Buffy. Oh Spike. D:
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:57 pm (UTC)
There's so much I hated about it. I didn't like the Spuffy thing much, but also the sudden appearance of the Slayerettes (Yes! Let us crap all over our own 'there can only be one' canon!) and the heartless and pointless deaths of several favorite characters... ugh.

There was nothing to love there, though I know some people do. :(
Princess Robot Bubblegum!astrothsknot on June 4th, 2014 05:31 pm (UTC)
any flavour of ritz cracker is gift to the world.

It's horrible when the final season is ballsed up, because there's no fixing it and that's how you'll remember your show.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 4th, 2014 05:59 pm (UTC)
The Herbed or Vegetable Garden or whatever Ritz are surprising good, but damn-- the Bacon-Flavored is epic.

It's horrible when the final season is ballsed up, because there's no fixing it and that's how you'll remember your show.
Exactly! And if you loved it enough to own DVD sets, how weird is it to have all of these open-ended season finales leading to the last season and still be thinking, "Yeah, but you should really quite watching on this S6 cliffhanger here. And probably not buy the last disc set at all." :(
cindy: holy carp!tsuki_no_bara on June 5th, 2014 01:43 am (UTC)
BACON FLAVORED RITZ. HOMG. THIS IS NOT A THING I NEEDED TO KNOW.

altho i'm glad i do now. :D

i keep reading it as "regency bias" and it just makes me think of romance readers trying to convince each other that their favorite time periods make the best novels. from what i can understand it sounds kind of like expecting to the same pattern to be repeated over and over, and then the pattern breaks.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 5th, 2014 05:26 am (UTC)
"Regency bias" was how I first read it too, since 'recency' is not a word in my universe!

That would be much more limiting, though.

Bacon Ritz! I'll bet they're calling to you now. :O