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13 February 2012 @ 02:50 pm
Gripes I Have Griped  
To the random people leaving kudos for Lethal Games over on AO3 these past few weeks... you do realize that hardly anyone writes fanfic for The Hurt Locker, don't you? So would it kill you to leave an actual comment?

I blame Facebook and the whole concept of the "Like" button...

I'm still polishing my Real LJ Idol story (the idea didn't come to me until bedtime on Saturday), and trying to get some testing done for work. Christopher's home sick today, and making the cats very happy by resting on the sofa with the fluffy, fleece blanket.

But on the plus side, Valentine's Day love is flying around LJ right and left. It's such a lovely time of year around here, and that tends to make everything else seem unimportant.

to you all!

sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Castle snaggedbadboy_fangirl on February 13th, 2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
I love AO3 because the format allows me to have everything easily accessible and I can print myself a hardcopy, but other than that I hate it. I get all kinds of kudos, but nobody who ever wants to talk about the stories. It's a real let down in that regard after LJ, I have to say.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Yikeshalfshellvenus on February 13th, 2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
It really is.

It's a great place for small-fandom entries, in particular, EXCEPT that other than at Yuletide, hardly anyone ever comments. And that's really disappointing. I get more comments over at fanfic.net than at AO3, which really says something.

Even though you _could_ have conversations on stories at AO3 like you do at LJ (because the replies are nested the same way), it tends not to happen simply because the first step is for someone to actually leave a comment. Ugh.

I wonder if removing the "Kudos" feature would prompt more people to take the time to comment, or whether it would go the other way and the stories would be lonelier still! :0
Kronette: RD-Lister/Rimmer naughty thoughtskronette on February 14th, 2012 02:35 am (UTC)
I wondered about the Kudos thingy too. I didn't "get" it and would happily chuck it if I could. Maybe we can all make suggestions to remove it, as it is in beta?
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on February 14th, 2012 02:42 am (UTC)
I hadn't thought about AO3 being in beta still-- it's what, 2-3 years old now?

But you're right. It IS in beta!
cindy: penguins - the big chill (by rjcardinal)tsuki_no_bara on February 14th, 2012 01:41 am (UTC)
i hate the kudos option. haaaaaaate. it makes for lazy commenters. i'd rather get no comment. (i tend to think that if ao3 did away with kudos, people just wouldn't comment.) bah!

and! i keep forgetting to thank you for the valentine's day e-card! with the penguin! (of course. :D ) thank you! ^_^
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Lovehalfshellvenus on February 14th, 2012 03:17 am (UTC)
I agree about the lazy comments. Even the "Loved it!" comments on ff.net are better than no comment. But like you, I fear that getting rid of it would make no difference. Bah, indeed!

You're welcome for the e-card! I wish I could work Badtz Maru into a Valentine's something, since he's my favorite penguin, but the only pictures I see of him along those lines are kind of anti-Valentines. Exactly what you'd expect from Badtz, really. :)
Clair de Lune: boston legalclair_de_lune on February 14th, 2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
I'm not a fan of the kudos feature either. First, it's lazy. Second, it is not the equivalent of even a very short comment because "loved it", "nice" or "thanks for writing" don't mean the same thing. And maybe it's my ESL-ness and I don't get the appropriate meaning of what a kudo is, but it makes me feel a bit like a pet congratulated for his/her good behavior. I'm probably guilty of having used it once or twice, but I try to avoid it.
I agree with you about the "like" button, but I also think that people reading on their cellphone (or similar device) doesn't help: it's easier to hit a button than to leave a few words.

While I'm here, thank you for the e-card and the v-gift ♥
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Lovehalfshellvenus on February 14th, 2012 09:03 pm (UTC)
To offer "kudos" to someone is to praise their efforts or results. It usually means substantial praise.

But OTOH, if people feel something was substantially good, they should leave a comment, shouldn't they? ;)

I've heard the comment about reading fic on phones before, but it seems that with all an author does to write something, if you like it... text a reply! You probably text your friends at will, so why not put that little bit of effort into a story that you liked?

Because I _know_ that just about everybody texts faster than I do. Except for my husband. :0

Thank you for the v-gift as well! I hope you had a lovely Valentine's Day! ♥
Clair de Lune: pb - trio2clair_de_lune on February 14th, 2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
So it is due to the ESL-ness. Kind of. This kind if thing can be tricky because even if I understand the meaning of a word or a phrase, the feel of it doesn't necessarily match.

But OTOH, if people feel something was substantially good, they should leave a comment, shouldn't they? ;)
That's a fair point.
I had the same rant discussion about kudos with someone else not so long ago, and our conclusion was no kudos for the kudos. They may be okay or useful every now and then, but most of the time, they're just frustrating.

*snorts* If we had a contest about the slowest text-sender, I'm not sure you'd win - and I have a cellphone with an actual, although tiny, keyboard, which helps a lot. That being said, I don't like reading fics on a cellphone anyway, so I'm just guessing, and the complexity of commenting via this kind of device is pretty foreign to me :-p I want my couch, my time and my large screen to read a fic!