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22 June 2011 @ 04:56 pm
First, Happy Birthday to tuesdaeschild! I hope you're having a lovely day, with both wine AND chocolate. ♥

Late birthday greetings to _sin_attract and deadbeat_nymph, and early ones for pkoceres (in case I space that out on Thursday). Celebrate all that you are, and know that I do too! \o/

On the RL front, things are "meh" and "blah." We had about one week of Spring (last week), and now we've hit the 100-degree heat of Summer. That was the longest Winter ever, and it totally distracted me from important things such as, "You know, you're going to have to shrink that butt if you want to get into a pair of shorts again." Bleh.

We finished S1 of Luther last night (so soon? Only six episodes!), and I suspect I'll be torrenting S2 in the near future since it just ran on BBC.

We also watched Ferris Bueller's Day Off, providing the kids with context for really memorable lines that don't otherwise make sense:
  • "Well, Jeannie, who's bothering you now?" (There's an entire history behind that line, you can just tell).

  • "That's it. I want out of this family." (God, I have SO been there, growing up)

  • "Do you speak English?" "What country do you think this IS?"

  • "You produce a corpse, and I'll dig up your daughter."

  • "So that's how it is in their family..."

  • "Ferris Bueller, you're my HE-ro."

  • "If I go for ten [sick days], I'm probably gonna have to barf up a lung."

  • Cameron and the principal completely steal that movie, and it was interesting to find out that Lauren was more irritated by Ferris' behavior than not, especially in how he treated Cameron. I sympathize with Jeannie, too-- everything she does backfires, even when it isn't wrong, and Ferris gets away with absolutely everything. Thank goodness it's only a movie. ;)

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    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assybadboy_fangirl on June 23rd, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)
    My favorite part of this movie is:

    Drug boy: Drugs?

    Jeannie: Thank you, no. I'm straight.

    Drug boy: I meant, are you in here for drugs?

    Jeannie: Why are you here?

    Drug boy: Drugs.

    And Charlie looks so wasted, which was probably his most method performance ever.


    I love that Lauren found Ferris annoying. So did I. I don't even own that John Hughes movie and I LOVE John Hughes.
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Laugh SPNhalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 12:24 am (UTC)
    That's one of my favorite parts too, partly because he keeps repeating, "Drugs..." in a semi-obsessed way. So, of COURSE it's the reason he's in there!

    And I agree about the method performance. ;)

    Ferris has always bugged me too, partly because what he gets away with tends to have damaging side-effects on Cameron and Jeannie. And really, it's just so unfair to Jeannie! An actual intruder in her house, and she gets hauled in by the police for making a phony phone call. Geez!

    I don't really love John Hughes- his movies are awfully white and awfully precious. This is actually my favorite of his movies (shocking-- it doesn't even star Jon Cusack!). And my most favorite John Hughes movie that he didn't direct is "Say Anything," which was Cameron Crowe instead.
    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Dug squirrelbadboy_fangirl on June 23rd, 2011 02:26 am (UTC)
    Actually Say Anything is a Cameron Crowe-written movie directed by Cameron Crowe. Hughes wasn't involved in that at all. The only Cusack-Hughes movie was Sixteen Candles, which hardly qualifies since it's such a bit part for Cusack.

    But I love Say Anything. As far as teen angst goes, the only movie I love more from that era is The Breakfast Club, which for me is the quintessential high school movie.

    And yes, Ferris's bad behavior somehow setting Cameron "free" was always the part I didn't buy into. I think that's why I don't own it.
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 02:57 am (UTC)
    Hughes wasn't involved in that at all.
    I know. ;)

    But it's a John Hughes-like movie, in many ways. All of what he does, except better, at least for me.

    Ferris's bad behavior somehow setting Cameron "free" was always the part I didn't buy into.
    Ferris always got Cameron into more trouble than he would have, and also... with both parents wound that tight, it is highly unlikely that Cameron's later confrontation with his Dad would ever go at ALL well. Rigid people tend not to listen to others or to question themselves, you know? And Cameron's parents are rigid. :0
    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Iknowrightbadboy_fangirl on June 23rd, 2011 04:52 pm (UTC)
    I always imagined Cameron beat within an inch of his life after his father found the car. I don't imagine it went well at all. :-/

    ETA: I clarified that Crowe wrote SA because Hughes did like to have other people direct his films from time to time--Howie Deutsch directed Pretty in Pink and Some Kind of Wonderful and incidentally met his wife on the latter film--Lea Thompson! :D

    Edited at 2011-06-23 04:54 pm (UTC)
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Bad Robothalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 05:17 pm (UTC)
    I always imagined Cameron beat within an inch of his life after his father found the car.
    Eeesh. I hadn't thought of that (and it's not improbable). I could see him being kicked out of the house and disowned. Because really, his parents have clearly put their "things" and their lifestyle/status ahead of their son, which tells me that they don't love him very much. I think he was right in being so nervous all of the time. :(

    Ah, I hadn't thought about Hughes having other people direct his movies. I'm not that much of a connoisseur of his oeuvre, really. I did like Some Kind of Wonderful though. I have mixed feelings about The Breakfast Club.

    Lea Thompson! I'd say Howie picked a winner there. :)
    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Benderbadboy_fangirl on June 23rd, 2011 05:30 pm (UTC)
    I just imagined his dad flying into a rage over it--but then again they were very affluent, coldness and being disowned would be more their style, I suppose.

    You know what's funny is I have so many issues with FBDO, and I never even realized it until this conversation with you! So thanks! If you want to share your TBC issues, I'd be happy to listen.

    The best part is on the 10/15th? something special anniversary edition DVD of SKoW, Lea and Howie do an commentary together--and he talks about how he felt like Keith in the movie, that she was so beautiful and she would never notice him in a million years...it's so cute! They are adorable on the commentary. And now they've been married over 20 years!
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Cocoa Lovehalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 05:58 pm (UTC)
    Clearly, I have issues with the movie too. They don't keep me from enjoying it, but they're definitely there. Many of mine revolve around Jeannie, probably because my mother clearly had a favorite child, and the rules were always a little different for her.

    Ferris' mother, in particular, is sure her baby can do no wrong... while Jeannie can do no right. Ugh. Talk about poisonous. I completely sympathize with the "I want out of this family" statement, because I'm sure Jeannie had had enough of that BS by then.

    I enjoy TBC, but I don't love it. My immediate recall of it is that I found it trite (much like St. Elmo's Fire). My main issue is probably the idea that a makeover can instantly transform someone with a highly antisocial personality (and she seems to have earned that personality, so it would be even harder for her to just "let go of it"). That is so sexist and shallow. Plus, I tend to think that everyone would probably drift right back to their social cliques and behaviors before the week was out, as people tend to do. Even once they've been shown it's wrong!
    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Benderbadboy_fangirl on June 24th, 2011 05:01 pm (UTC)
    Maybe we've talked about the Ally Sheedy character before--we've been friends long enough it may have come up before, or maybe I chatted with someone else about it, but it just hit me in a different way than it has before. I don't know that Alison was anti-social, so much as she did things she knew would garner attention (negative is better than none, right?), but really when she opened up to all of them she wasn't as much like what she put on.

    So that makes me think it was all a put-on because of being ostracized, or even the way people sometimes bring stuff on themselves by one odd behavior and then they just keep doing it for the reaction. At any rate, I think the idea there is that they were all young enough to make changes if they really wanted (and were brave enough) to. (When you grow up your heart dies.)

    On the other hand, I've totally thought that before too, that on Monday did they really change, or did they go right back to it? I even wrote a Bender/Claire fic once that sort of explored the idea that they changed inside, but they still kept it private--away from their friends. So, of course, I'd like to believe that they were changed by their experience that Saturday, but people are people, and they often disappoint each other.
    a rearranger of the proverbial bookshelf: Dean - you got meembroiderama on June 23rd, 2011 12:40 am (UTC)
    For me, the defining Charlie Sheen moment in his entire career is when Jeannie says, "Why don't you stick your thumb up your butt?" And he just looks at his hand like hmmmmm. ;)
    sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: Castle Shinybadboy_fangirl on June 23rd, 2011 02:33 am (UTC)
    I'm sure this was the first thing I ever saw him in and I was in love with him afterwards. You know there's a something seriously wrong with a film when the cutest guy is the stoner at the police station.

    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Laugh SPNhalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 02:58 am (UTC)
    Hahaha! He does at least consider it, and realizes that it's absurd.

    I always enjoyed the junior psychiatry moment of that scene, because it's so unexpected from his character and yet... he's not wrong.
    a rearranger of the proverbial bookshelf: Breakfast Club 80'sembroiderama on June 23rd, 2011 12:38 am (UTC)
    Ferris! I love that movie far, far too much. Speaking of Jennifer Grey, I just finished watching Dirty Dancing for the first time in a bunch of years. :D
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 03:02 am (UTC)
    Sometimes I feel like I could spend all day watching the principal progressively screw himself over in his attempts to get Ferris. That, and the scene where Cameron debates whether to go pick up Ferris, and roars in frustration while he guns the motor of his car. SO perfect. :D

    I suspect Lauren would like Dirty Dancing a lot-- she's all about the romantic comedies (moreso about the chick flicks, which I personally do NOT like).

    The sad thing about Jennifer Grey is that, after she got the nose job... she didn't look like much of anything. Before, she was pretty and distinctive-looking, and clearly Jennifer Grey. Afterwards... pretty, but utterly forgetable. :(
    cindytsuki_no_bara on June 23rd, 2011 03:14 am (UTC)
    "abe frohman, the sausage king of chicago?" every so often my sister or i will find context to say that to each other, and no one else has any idea what we're talking about. that and "they think he's a righteous dude". and i always forget charlie sheen was in it, but of course he played the drug boy. heh.
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
    I just repeat the last part of that- the maitre d's line delivery is unforgettable, so how can you help it?

    I love the "righteous dood" line too, because that's how she pronounces it. That whole part of the secretary's dialogue has so much slang that is just SO wrong for her to be using. Which makes it even better. :D
    Maz (or foxxy!): Cocktailtuesdaeschild on June 23rd, 2011 08:47 am (UTC)
    Awwww!! Thank you for the birthday wishes, sweetheart! I had wine but no chocolate. I'm hoping a Toffee Sundae Ice Cream is a suitable substitute!!

    Winter to summer in the space of one spring week?!! It's impossible to get acclimatised in that short space of time! 100 degrees! Far too hot!

    Ferris Bueller's Day Off is one of those films I'd always promised myself I'd see from as far back as 1989 (there's a boring story behind that!)...never have though. *sighs*

    *hugs you*
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Birthdayhalfshellvenus on June 23rd, 2011 04:35 pm (UTC)
    Your ice cream sounds delicious, so that's all good! I'll check later to see if you posted details-of-the-day. I hope everyone was very good to you, and gave you the love you so richly deserve. ♥

    Ferris Bueller is definitely worth watching at least once. The principal and his epic failure spiral alone are a must-see, I think. :D
    Maz (or foxxy!): A Little Joytuesdaeschild on June 25th, 2011 12:25 pm (UTC)
    It was very yummy! Everyone was very good to me and really showed me the love. Thank you for being part of it, sweetheart. ♥

    I will certainly be adding Ferris Bueller to my list of films I really need to watch!

    Kimberleylampshade_days on June 24th, 2011 03:01 am (UTC)
    I love Cameron and the "Ferris Bueller, you're my hero" line, and pretty much every single Cameron facial expression. I admit to geeking out a bit recently when Alan Ruck showed up on an episode of Fringe.
    The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: heh-hehhalfshellvenus on June 24th, 2011 03:14 am (UTC)
    Cameron cracks me up-- and that scene at the beginning, with him in the car beating both it and himself up over whether to go to Ferris' house... priceless!

    Alan Ruck used to be on Spin City for awhile-- such a surprise to see him there! I can't believe he was in his late 20s in his Ferris Bueller appearance-- he looked like such a big kid. :D