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27 September 2009 @ 12:35 am
Catching Up...  
The end of the work-week went berserk. It's time for ratings, so you have to prepare your Yearly Statement Of Personal Accomplishments And Awesomeness. This was interrupted by a surprise need for said awesomeness, to help a co-worker figure out how to meet lofty customer needs with the crappy resources he's been given. \o?

Thought I'd get some writing done tonight, but I got sleepy instead, so I caught up on my f-list, dating back to about Thursday. Tomorrow will feature more basketball (Christopher is on a competitive team, and has another game), and possibly some yard/painting work. The 100-degree forecast does not bode well, though.

I'm kind of on the fence about SPN 5x03, despite that wonderful montage of the boys leading their lonely, parallel lives. It reminds me of the montage of bereft-Sam soldiering on alone from 4x11, "Mystery Spot," which beat out the entire episode of "I Know What You Did Last Summer" for showing emotional depth. So much shown, so movingly and succinctly.

I don't much like the canon direction of Sam choosing again and again to "sit out the Apocalypse." It's selfish and short-sighted, and I'd like to think Sam's grown beyond that by now.

But what really bothered me, oddly enough, was Dean's behavior with Castiel. There was the archangel-sassing (how is that ever NOT dumb?), but mostly, it was the idea that the appropriate way to spend Castiel's (possibly) last night alive was to take him to a whorehouse. There's the whole question of it being Jimmy's body (though I think it IS only the body now), but mostly, it just seems incredibly wrong to me, as if being an angel is something that needs to be "fixed." Yes, this is the agnostic talking.

Dean came off like an utter asshole throughout, and I wasn't pleased that Castiel let himself be coerced into that. I wasn't fooled by the talk at the end, though-- Dean's only lying to himself if he thinks he's happier now without Sam, and even HE's not buying it.

Outside the spoiler-space, I can rant about the WTF-ness of transmission problems across the country for this episode. In my area, it was a prolonged blacked-out screen for about 3 minutes. For other people, it was a frozen commercial having a similar effect. Thank goodness for Torrent, because apparently I need rescuing from the fabulousness of Digitial TV on a regular basis now.

Speaking of which... we got our coaxial cable splitter (to install tomorrow, since HSH did not understand the urgency of buying it on Thursday). I've since learned that if I'm going to depend on Hulu for a show, it had better be on the Fox Network, because NBC and CBS will not allow replaying of their episodes. Even at NBC.com, all you can get is a two-minute "recap" of an episode.

Which means I downloaded The Mentalist last night via Torrent, and I need to hunt down Law&Order: SVU too. I should have watched L&O live and used Hulu for Glee, but who knew? I may be doomed to watching Fringe that way for the coming season, which I wouldn't mind so much if there was a volume booster for PC speakers so I could actually HEAR all the dialogue. *grumps* Never thought I'd be thinking things like, "Oh god, now is not the time to resort to the "velvet" voice, Lance! Speak up!"

On the other hand... I now know which episodes of Better Off Ted to recapture, and which ones I can get off of Hulu if I'm fast enough. Love that show! I seemed to have missed everything after episode 5, due to unpredictable summertime airing, but I plan to remedy that. :)

 
 
 
The Good, The Bad and The Lana: smilie priyankathelana on September 27th, 2009 08:08 am (UTC)
Heh, look forward to your SVU thoughts :)
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on September 27th, 2009 07:03 pm (UTC)
I've got the download, so I should be able to watch it in the next few day.

I've said it before, but there are so FEW shows we're watching right now (thanks to killing off so many of my oddball favorites, or the ones like "24" that don't start right away) that HOW do the networks manage to put the ones I DO watch opposite each other? Grrr.

Though "The Mentalist" might be my only CBS show, and that's in a snarl because of our stupid early-prime-time local CBS station. For other people, that show comes on at 10pm where there is apparently almost nothing to watch any more, considering that 50% of my 10pm shows were on NBC. :0
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 04:36 pm (UTC)
Now that I've seen it, I really enjoyed the episode and Wentworth in it. Fascinating, troubled character-- so burned-out and heartless that you wonder why he's still on the job, really.

Neither HSH nor I liked the ending. The edginess of the question, "Did he or didn't he?" was fine. It was the larger legal outcome that bothered us.
The Good, The Bad and The Lana: smilie priyankathelana on September 28th, 2009 04:44 pm (UTC)
You mean that they couldn't get the innocent guy out? There was an interesting discussion about it on TWOP and the people with legal background said that that isn't all that unrealistic. Unless there's clear DNA evidence the state loathes to overturn jury verdicts.

Wentworth still looks like Michael to me. :) I kept thinking "Oh, it's undercover Michael! When will Linc and Sucre show up?" :D
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on September 28th, 2009 04:44 pm (UTC)
BTW, they also said that rumor has it that the case will be revisited. So maybe the innocent guy will get out in a later episode.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:25 pm (UTC)
Boy, that had BETTER happen.

I love Christine Lahti, but I hated her character in this episode. "You're doing everything wrong, you've fucked up everything since the beginning of time, and no-- you can't fix this incredibly urgent mistake. Or if you can, I'm not interested in helping you."

Gah!
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: MichaelInBarshalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:28 pm (UTC)
:D He does to me too, though mostly I was disctracted by those running fandom comments about Went's "fatness" in the later season, and that his face seemed heavy here and that he had "concealing" clothes on. ;)
The Good, The Bad and The Lana: smilie priyankathelana on September 28th, 2009 05:39 pm (UTC)
Like I wrote in my own ep reaction, I was focused on that too or rather distracted by it. But about 10 minutes in I spied the side-of-his-head mole again and he was again sorta hot to me :)
Genevieve: perfectly engineared by smirky turkeymsgenevieve on September 27th, 2009 09:51 am (UTC)
*waves*

I have a few links for the Wentworthy SVU if you'd like them?
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on September 27th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
I got them via Torrent, so I'm good. I didn't realize Went was in the premiere-- I thought he was randomly showing up during the season! What an episode to miss. Thank goodness for the Internet.

Sending many hugs and good thoughts your way-- I know it's been an overwhelming and sad time, lately.
Genevieve: brothers by yucormsgenevieve on October 4th, 2009 11:24 am (UTC)
Nothing like starting off their season with a bang, is there?

Thank you for the hugs and good thoughts. I'm getting on with things, but right now I'm at the stage of crying at sad adverts and news items about the tsunami and earthquakes in South East Asia. Meep. This too shall pass, I know. *hugs you back*
Princess Robot Bubblegum!: angel and demonastrothsknot on September 27th, 2009 12:56 pm (UTC)
Considering New Media is The Devil, they seem intent on driving us into his loving embrace...

The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on September 27th, 2009 07:05 pm (UTC)
That's definitely what it feels like on my end. And this is the Devil who does NOT pay attention to details, like quality of transmission. :(
cindy: spn - dean facepalm (by mixedbatch)tsuki_no_bara on September 27th, 2009 04:42 pm (UTC)
i didn't actually mind the archangel-sassing or the whorehouse, mostly because they seemed like very dean things to do. and castiel in a whorehouse made me giggle, and i never pass up an opportunity to laugh at him.

but i'm right there with you on sam's short-sightedness in wanting to sit out the apocalypse, and i'm not sure how or why he'd think dean can possibly do it by himself. (or if that even occurred to him.) especially since some of their friction last season seemed to come from sam's belief that dean just wasn't up to finding lilith and stopping lucifer. whereas now lucifer's out, god's missing, earth is literally going to hell in a handcart and sam's all "i gotta go detox, you take care of this yourself". i can handwave a legitimate reason why he has to step back - i watch a lot of intervention, and sometimes it's safer for you to leave your life to fix your head - but i think it's dumb under the circumstances and i don't think it can last much longer.

i didn't buy dean's "i'm fine, i'm happy without sam" either, altho it didn't come off as a 100% complete lie. but i'm not interested in a dean who'd rather hunt with castiel than with his own brother, so i'm not going to think about it. :D

my reception was just fine, tho. it was good god, y'all that i had trouble with.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
mostly because they seemed like very dean things to do
They seemed even beyond normal-Dean to me, though admittedly that's an aspect of Dean I've never liked anyway. I don't know why Kripke ever tried to deny that Dean is a dick-- is he really that oblivious?

Castiel made me laugh several times, because here he was the MOST like any of the comedy stories I've written about him. He's clueless, he's single-minded, he doesn't truly grasp the distinction between what regular humans believe and the truth as he knows it. And the idea that he was kicked out of the whorehouse for "threatening" that young woman with sympathy that hit too close to home really cracked me up!

i can handwave a legitimate reason why he has to step back - i watch a lot of intervention, and sometimes it's safer for you to leave your life to fix your head - but i think it's dumb under the circumstances and i don't think it can last much longer.
It's the context that makes it so dumb for me-- in another situation, I can see it, but with the current danger raining down on the earth and Dean heading right into the eye of the storm, THIS is not the time to go all self-centered emo.

but i'm not interested in a dean who'd rather hunt with castiel than with his own brother, so i'm not going to think about it. :D
Ditto. Really, though, even if Dean IS tired of worrying what Sam's up to (and he might very well be), taking Castiel along hunting is like taking a 4-year-old with you who will bust your cover every time they open their mouth. He's safer alone. :0


Deadbeat Nymph: dean nosedeadbeat_nymph on September 27th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
I didn't mind the whorehouse bit, I think for two reasons: First, I got the impression that Dean wasn't trying to 'fix' Castiel's angelicness; rather, I saw it as the only thing that came to Dean's mind as something Castiel would want to experience before he died. Because Dean himself has had so few hobbies, interests, anything, outside of hunting, sex is probably the only pure thing in his life. It's his one release, the one thing where he can put down his mantle of work and just enjoy himself. I see it as a bizarre juxtaposition: For Dean, sex is escape from his life, but despite the escapism of it, it's also when he's most authentically social. His interactions with almost all people involve major deceit and the need to be in character. When he's alone with a woman (or women, or a man, whatever), despite what he might have told her (them, him) what he does for a living, all that stuff falls to the side, and he's just Dean. So, I can see how he'd want to share that with Castiel, and why that would be the only thing that would spring to mind.

Second, Castiel didn't actually go through with it. And I discussed this with a friend who thought the same as I did when watching that sequence: That Castiel's type isn't so much sad, skinny hookers as, erm, rugged yet pretty hunters... I'm not into Castiel/Dean myself (Sam/Dean is definitely my OTP), but that was all very slashy. And I don't think that's just my slashgirl's imagination. We know Misha knows about slash and finds it interesting, and we know, of course, that the writers all know about it. And while I don't think they'd ever go there explicitly, Misha puts stars in Castiel's eyes when he looks at Dean. He freaking swoons. And then there's the writing: the 'personal space' issue; the 'I did it all for you' again and again. I think that Castiel is in love with Dean, but as an angel and basically sexless, he doesn't understand it himself, can't put a name to it. But running around, playful, with Dean on his last night on earth strikes me as exactly what Castiel wanted.

As for the talk at the end, I think it was clear that Dean wasn't buying it. And I think Castiel disappeared because he didn't want to indulge the lie.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
First, I got the impression that Dean wasn't trying to 'fix' Castiel's angelicness; rather, I saw it as the only thing that came to Dean's mind as something Castiel would want to experience before he died. Because Dean himself has had so few hobbies, interests, anything, outside of hunting, sex is probably the only pure thing in his life. It's his one release, the one thing where he can put down his mantle of work and just enjoy himself.
Interesting thoughts here!

I'm too much of a prude to ever not think whorehouses and prostitution are anything but gross, and the idea of taking an angel to a whorehouse is wrong in more ways than I can handle. Even if it doesn't match DEAN'S belief system, that idea collides a ton of major sins together that are an offense to what CASTIEL believes. And that bugs me.

And while I don't think they'd ever go there explicitly, Misha puts stars in Castiel's eyes when he looks at Dean. He freaking swoons.
Oh, I agree. I can definitely see why people get the slashy vibes off of Castiel, though I don't feel anything but annoyance coming back from Dean. But it's not my OTP, so I ignore it, even though the show is throwing bones like anvils on that score right now.

But running around, playful, with Dean on his last night on earth strikes me as exactly what Castiel wanted.
Now THAT I can see. And it's much more fun that sitting in a chair and waiting for the end to come. What a plan. *eye roll*



Edited at 2009-09-28 05:19 pm (UTC)
blackcat333_99blackcat333_99 on September 27th, 2009 07:49 pm (UTC)
Outside the spoiler-space, I can rant about the WTF-ness of transmission problems across the country for this episode. In my area, it was a prolonged blacked-out screen for about 3 minutes.

I lost those couple of minutes too! Believe me I'm pretty sure smoke was coming out my ears. I *think* I didn't end up missing anything that would affect my understanding of the ep., but it still pissed me off. I guess just one more mini bonus I'll get on the DVDs come next Sept -- a complete 5.03 ep.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:21 pm (UTC)
Wonder if it was the West Coast feed in general? I can never tell if it's the local affiliate screwing up, or if someone back East is asleep at the wheel!

In any case, I recovered those minutes via Torrent. Scenes of Sam playing darts (awesomely!) and more of the annoying blond exposition-device-girl pushing Sam to reveal his secrets. Plus a newscast about the thing Sam eventually calls Bobby about.

So in fact, nothing of major plot importance. Whew!
happy is as happy does: Dean smiling - SPNhappywriter06 on September 28th, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)
I didn't get the whole Catiel needing to lose his virginity either. An unnecessary interlude. Though it did crack me up.

I meant to put in my post about about this episode Dean's one-liners/sassiness. I don't know if it's just me but they are really starting to grate on my nerves.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Diner Deanhalfshellvenus on September 28th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC)
I didn't get the whole Catiel needing to lose his virginity either. An unnecessary interlude. Though it did crack me up.
It was so wrong for CASTIEL that it bothered me, and so disrespectful of his belief system. I realize Dean doesn't remotely share that (he doesn't give the slightest damn), but it just points out how much of a dick he is.

I don't know if it's just me but they are really starting to grate on my nerves.
It's a side of him-- the insulting authority and digging himself farther into trouble-- that I don't like, but which also has never made sense to me. I canNOT see his military father raising him that way OR ever approving of it. The best I can do is say that this is how Dean rebels against John-- by insulting OTHER authority figures and people in positions of respect. It's still stupid on his part, though, and really annoying.
happy is as happy does: Dean Winchester is fictional. - SPNhappywriter06 on October 4th, 2009 06:30 am (UTC)
It was so wrong for CASTIEL that it bothered me, and so disrespectful of his belief system.
I thought of it more along the lines of 'Why would it even matter to him?'

It's a side of him-- the insulting authority and digging himself farther into trouble-- that I don't like, but which also has never made sense to me. I canNOT see his military father raising him that way OR ever approving of it.
Good point about John raising him. I never made that connection. Probably because I felt like it seemed to know when to pull back. Now it's all the time. I rationalize but saying he's really pissed at the authority figures around him now. Still it's unproductive and we get it: Dean hates him.