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16 April 2009 @ 10:42 pm
Dayum....  
Okay, now I've seen the S2 finale of Terminator: SCC, and it was awesome. It solved some of my lingering puzzles (confirming some of miss_mandy's theories, in fact), revealed fascinating truths, and ended with what could either be a completion point (if it's cancelled) or open up a new arc of possibilities if we get a third season.

It also laid the foundation for things that have happened in the last two seasons (supported its own canon). SO awesome, as finales go.

Please, Fox-- this show has great writing, a great cast, and (you'll rarely hear me say this) great original music (powerful, evocative, moody, and mournful in turns).

Don't shelve a great product. I want to see where this all goes!

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shaitanah: naruto_tearsshaitanah on April 17th, 2009 08:45 am (UTC)
Oh, the finale was mindblowing! But still so many questions left... I don't understand how the ratings of such an awesome show can be so low.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on April 17th, 2009 04:24 pm (UTC)
Me either-- what fantastic writing, and so interesting.

I know, there ARE a lot of questions left, but I don't feel "cliffhangered" either, which I'm so tired of in TV series and eventually bites you in the ass if you cliffhanger a show that gets cancelled. (like "Crossing Jordan").
the reluctant lobotomist: covered facefourfreedoms on April 17th, 2009 08:49 am (UTC)
I felt that it was a suitably epic ending, but that it caused a lot of problems within its own timeframe, but especially that Derek spoke with John face to face and didn't recognize him as an adult, but as soon as he went back in time, he knew it was his brother's son.

So the only thing I can think is that it's some alternate future, like with the guy who did the torturing, and sigh, I feel a little curmudgeonly, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with it straying SO FAR from the Terminator canon. But that said, I REALLY DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY, so that we can see where it goes.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on April 17th, 2009 04:28 pm (UTC)
Actually, it made sense to me. It looks as if John went far enough in the past that Derek doesn't know him (or that John's his nephew), and it also looks as if the Cameron in that past is human.

I missed part of the episode on Cameron's background (where she and Riley were hanging out and Cameron seemed to have forgotten who she was), but it appeared that Cameron is based on a real person whose appearance and perhaps some memories were transplanted onto a Cyborg. So we may have been seeing the early, early human version-- because that Cameron was crouched down and petting a dog, and that strikes me as completely UNcyborglike behavior.

I'm just fascinated by the possibilities in that finale, and I want to see where it goes too!
the reluctant lobotomistfourfreedoms on April 17th, 2009 04:52 pm (UTC)
No, no, I got all that. It's just that when Derek first comes back, he tells John that he realized Kyle was his dad all on his own, because EVERY time he looks at him, he sees Kyle. Well, here John isn't even older. So that suggests to me, when he went back into the past, he wouldn't recognize him as Kyle's son.

Edited at 2009-04-17 04:53 pm (UTC)
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on April 17th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
So that suggests to me, when he went back into the past, he wouldn't recognize him as Kyle's son.

Perhaps he'd like to think he recognized John right off when he in fact didn't (rewriting his own history-- my Dad now claims he has memories from age 2, so I'm all too familiar with this idea). OR... it was a platitude to reassure the emoBoy that was S1 John Connor. ;)
the reluctant lobotomistfourfreedoms on April 17th, 2009 08:38 pm (UTC)
Er, but nobody told him that John was Kyle's son. He told John that he had figured it out.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on April 18th, 2009 12:55 am (UTC)
Hmmm, you probably were paying far more attention in S1 than I was. I tended to tune out scenes with emoBoy for quite awhile because they bored me, so I've probably missed some details. Good thing I'm not writing fic in that fandom. ;)
the reluctant lobotomistfourfreedoms on April 18th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)
I actually just rewatched it recently. But ANYWAY, aside from whatever mess I believe they've painted themselves into, I would very much like them to bring this darn show back.
Kimberley: John&Cameronlampshade_days on April 17th, 2009 11:36 am (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on April 17th, 2009 04:28 pm (UTC)
One of Fox's better shows, in fact-- don't kill it!
happy is as happy does: Derek (why i watch TTSCC)happywriter06 on April 18th, 2009 07:36 pm (UTC)
I haven't seen it but it's nice to know it won't disappoint. Plus, I hate it when shows end with no resolution. Well, at least outside of fan fic.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: TVhalfshellvenus on April 19th, 2009 06:18 am (UTC)
Me too-- I want a feeling of the story coming to rest, and not the cliffhanger ending or something full of doom and strife (as in the last 3 season-enders of Supernatural).

I SO want there to be a third season of SCC, but if there isn't... I don't feel f**ked over by the ending, you know? And that matters.
happy is as happy does: Robotic Cameron - T:TSCChappywriter06 on April 21st, 2009 12:17 am (UTC)
It definitely does. Still this day there are shows I would still like to know what happened and it's been years.