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09 January 2008 @ 07:09 pm
PB Slash Awards finished-- Thank you, everyone!  
Here's my beautiful banner for "Best Slash Author" from the pbslash_awards:



Thanks to everyone who voted for me, and special thanks to haloisbent for organizing the whole thing!

I missed the original announcements for being AWOL early last week from LJ, and then... the dreaded power fluctuations from the wind storms. Now I can squee properly! Whoo!
 
 
 
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Bladehalfshellvenus on January 12th, 2008 08:49 am (UTC)
By the way, who is this MiSa of whom you speak? *shuns schmooshed ship name*
It's my nemesis, so all forms are equally bad! Though K/S or S/K has a certain attraction. Darn that cracktastic Owen/Lance/Paul!

Recovering from the holidays now? Not keeling over in the heat?
Genevieve: properly propergated by sezmsgenevieve on January 12th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)
It's my nemesis, so all forms are equally bad!

*laughs*

I have a very good friend with whom I share several fandoms. Without fail, in every single one of those fandoms, her OTP or favourite character are trying to kill *my* OTP or favourite character. I think I've mentioned her to you before? She's a huge Caroline Reynolds and Brinker fan.

I really do have a problem with the word MiSa, though. It's all kinds of wrong, and the sight of it in an author's notes will actually make me skip over a story.

Recovering from the holidays now? Not keeling over in the heat?

My city has escaped the worst of the heat so far (mind you, we've had lots of thunderstorms instead) so it hasn't been too bad. Both husband and I went back to work on 2nd Jan, and those two weeks of holidays are little more than a distant memory now.

Your kids are back at school now, yes? Hard to get used to school resuming so quickly after Christmas, and let's not forget that freaky mid-year start, lol! The new school year here starts at the end of January, you see.

The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on January 12th, 2008 10:35 am (UTC)

I have a very good friend with whom I share several fandoms. Without fail, in every single one of those fandoms, her OTP or favourite character are trying to kill *my* OTP or favourite character.


Hah, sounds like me and dangermousie. Except she is usally the shipper and I'm the anti shipper. Every show I love she thinks is boring and too procedural, most shows she loves fail to really draw me in (Farscape, BSG, Firefly, Dr. Who). When we do share a show (Roswell, Buffy), she usually ships like mad and I usually think the OTP is overrated, bordering on boring, taking away from the cool procedural stuff or I even root for or have affection for the person trying to break them up (Max/Liz Roswell (loved Tess), Max/Logan Dark Angel (scull numbingly boring), Logan/Veronica Veronica Mars (poisonous and he should fall off the next cliff; liked even Duncan in comparison and wanted Veronica with Wallace; ).

In fact the only thing we do seem to agree on is Moonlight and Mick/Beth there :) (Well, and mutual deep dislike for Felicity :D)
Genevieve: nikita gun by voleousmsgenevieve on January 13th, 2008 07:36 am (UTC)
When we first met, this friend was a huge Madeline/Paul fan (from LFN) and I was a Michael/Nikita fan. Natural enemies, lol!
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on January 13th, 2008 09:17 am (UTC)
Well, at least those two pairings are somewhat compatible, no? Even if you decide to focus more on one or the other. Unless she was rooting for your OTP to fall off a cliff so the show could spend more time on her OTP. :)

I was never in the LFN fandom, but somehow I assumed that most people probably liked/were interested in both pairings.
Genevieve: S5 nikita by katrin follymsgenevieve on January 13th, 2008 09:26 am (UTC)
Unless she was rooting for your OTP to fall off a cliff so the show could spend more time on her OTP. :)

Heh. Not exactly. You're right about the two couples being compatible on the show - I certainly enjoyed both of them, and wrote quite a few stories featuring Madeline/Paul. It was more the fans, I think, the staunch shippers of both ships who insisting on demonising the other OTP in order to make *theirs* come out on top. Cardboard cutout villians are never good, IMHO, in any guise.

The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on January 13th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)
I have to admit that these kind of attitudes scared me off canon shipping and fandom for a long time. (and it's so not a gay vs. straight thing; I read some reports on fandom_wank on the Queer As Folk fandom and crazy is universal; and that aside form having to suffer through some fandoms where slash was the undisputed majority, where the fans were just as catty as any other group and without having the potential excuse of not knowing any better)

I've come to distrust almost anything that is undisputedly popular because it seems to bring out the assholes in people.

Though at least if the pairings are technically compatible you can hope for maybe a relatively silent war where either side congratulates themselves on how much more sophisticated or loving "their" couple is. I have spent a lot of time in fandom defending the "intruder" person simply because I hated how the fans of the couple descended on any character like locusts, trashing them and painting them as the devil simply for daring to come near their OPT.

Me + fandom = not a happy place a lot of the time

I guess that's why I usually stick to obscure couples (with very few exceptions) because I wouldn't want to come across a person that made me think, "Whoa, you make me feel ashamed of my couple just by being on my side". Because to me insulting the feelings of real people and being an asshole trumps any fictional couple, no matter how awesome they might be.

Me + fandom = issues
Genevieve: michael sara truth by swatkat24msgenevieve on January 15th, 2008 01:40 pm (UTC)
Fandom is a funny beast, isn't it?

My attitude towards fandom is quite simple. I read and write what I enjoy. I have no interest in debating OTPs or 'best' characters (something that stood me in good stead in the Harry Potter and Doctor Who fandoms) because I don't see why I have the right to try to convince anyone else that what I like is better than what they like. Sadly, this means that I silently bristle when anyone thinks they're doing me a favour by explaining the shortcomings of my favourite pairing or character to me. Because, uh, no.

And then I usually go and write pron. *g*
The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on January 15th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
I'm rather a big fan of discussing myself, especially discussing character/motivation (probably because I can't write). But arguing about who is "better"? Strikes me as completely pointless. It would be like saying that red is obviously a superior color than blue and therefore people need to stop liking blue and have to be converted to liking red or green as their favorite color. Different people are attracted to different things and not even stuff like moral qualities should play any role in what people are attracted to when it comes to fictional characters.

If I want to root for a character who has killed why not? If I want to root for a cheating couple, why not? It's not real.

Of course those normal debates of X being "better" than Y, can often just generally fry your brain. I spent some time in soap opera fandoms and nothing hurts the brain more than people opening the moral discussion themselves and then bringing arguments like "This mob boss character who has killed many people is a better person than this cop because at least he doesn't cheat on his wife" or "This woman who has repeatedly tried to kill her opponent and pressured another woman into aborting her child is a better person than this other woman because the other woman has a lot of sex".

Of course we people work that way. We don't just root for something because it is nice and sane and the best choice. Sometimes things are closer to your heart like the mob boss that adores his family (not for me, personally, but I don't object to people who feel that way) or the psycho killer who would never backstab her friend and do everything for her. Sometimes we root for the sexy bad guy. It happens. Morality doesn't enter into it. People like what they like and people who tell others that they like the wrong thing are just weird to me.

There might be pairings that I might have no interest in or pairings that make me want to get out the brain bleach (like because I have personal issues with master/student or weird power imbalance relationships, something that makes me want to run for the hills while the next person thinks it's hot), but that doesn't make them wrong. And even if I deeply dislike a pairing I would never want to dispute any other person's right to their genuine enjoyment of that pairing. More power to them if they have found something they can enjoy.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphorshalfshellvenus on January 15th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
*Ahem*

Ladies, could you plz take this discussion to email? Thanks. :)