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16 October 2007 @ 01:55 pm
Wincon Report-- long, rambly and full of name-dropping. Or something.  

I arrived mid-day Friday, missing a chance to take the shuttle over with _sin_attract because her plane(s) had been delayed. I met maygra almost immediately on the way to my room (she is one fantastic hugger), and then also brynwulf, tjournal, tenaciousmetoo and maygra again in the elevator after I went back down to get a new room because somebody was still in the one they'd given me. :0

I paid a visit to the gym after unpacking—it was too early to register, and I figured I might not get another chance during the Con. I snuck around the entire outside of the building to try to get there without walking through the main lobby in my workout clothes. On the way back, I gave up—you can only really get in from the front. Urk.

After registering, I went in to watch the first two S3 episodes with the crowd. That probably was not the best way to start off the Con, because you can't really meet much of anyone in the dark! Also, several people have the lines to the episodes already memorized, and for awhile there I thought I might not be up to snuff in the fangirl department. This feeling faded, thank goodness. In the semi-dark, I met eponin10, winterlive, and scarlett_o. Got to see lots more of them all during the weekend!

I got a chance to say hello to _sin_attract when she finally arrived during the episode replay. Afterward, I met her friends who included black_regalia. All of them were sporting decorated name-badges, thanks to black_regalia's anime-style artistry, in several different themes that included girl!Sam and girl!Dean.

And right there at the table, clex_monkie89! Finally—2 years of Prison Break and Supernatural later! She was with namegoeshere and waterofthemoon (love that user-name), and had a new haircolor over the last pics I'd seen.

I also met taliesin, whom I spent lots of time with off and on. I enjoyed her thoughtful ideas about SPN, and her company. stephanometra explained the source of her fabulous shark-toothed babushka-doll icon that always cracks me up so much, and I met moveablehistory (my one and only encounter, sadly) and talked a little with miriad before the first panel started up.

First panel was "Minor characters," where we all talked about Ava, Ellen and Hendrickson. There might have been more, but a bunch of us bailed out for spoiler-ish discussions 20-minutes before the end. We speculated on when Ava turned evil, discussed whether we wanted Hendrickson to ever figure out that the Winchester boys were not evil or whether that would take all the fun out of his character. And we mourned that the CW clods are so hung up on demographics that we likely will not see enough Ellen this season. :(

missyjack spoke up during the panel (because how can you not know that the red-haired Aussie is missyjack?), so I immediately glommed onto her afterward. There was lots of missyjack time over three days, and it still wasn't enough!

The next panel was mythology, with interesting coverage of the various folkloric use in the SPN S1/S2 episodes and how well it was done. Turns out that the African-American and hoodoo folklore has been consistent and good (sparkymonster said she fell off the couch at how well "Crossroads Blues" did on this account), and that the whole panel was surprised at how close together "Wendigo" and "Skinwalker" aired, because the societal taboos that create both monsters are essentially the same even if the monsters are different. Most of what the show is using is American, and I personally would like to see some delving into more ancient ideas (Babylonian, Sumerian, etc.) and some Asian influence.

I'm pretty sure that it was after this that I met phouka_h, and then attempted to go to the Writing Porn panel. My porn-pal missyjack and I bailed out on that one after the hanky-code diversion, figuring that both of us were well-versed in writing porn anyway. ;) We instead went to the lounge and sat with esorlehcar and nymeria (sporting a notebook with a cover of things she hates, including Chad/Jensen, largely to tease esorlechar, who was hosting her during her trip over here). monster_of_hope was there (what a fabulous LJ-name), and txtequilanights joined us after awhile. It turns out that both esorlehcar and I have bought the Transylvanian "Vampire" wine, because who could resist that label? It has blood dripping from the V on it, and also, Transylvania! Doesn't taste that great, but still. \o/

After some great discussion and a mental blur spot, I met whosjeebus, and went off with her, rositimia, acuidquill, affectingly, and dove95 to dinner at Taco Bell/Pizza Hut. We may have convinced whosjeebus to watch "House" and "24" now— so she can squeeze more actual television in between her Role-Playing hobby. ;)

Then I braved The Roadhouse.

Wow. Very well-stocked bar, and a lot of people packed in there (the numbers came and went over the weekend). tittakv had Finnish liquor to offer (a blend of something like vodka and licorice, which I turned down and now regret because it was gone by Saturday). I met miss_begonia, and talked with her, winterlive, and nymeria again. Also tsuki_no_bara, who is extremely cute and I think also a Red Sox fan. mumbles11 joined us, and she is definitely a Red Sox fan. bunnymcfoo wandered by, who is the only person from my general area of the world, so yay! Then it was time for the Vid Show/Karaoke-fest.

I talked with nebt_het during that show, and she has many of the same generational music preferences as me (including skipping the giant gap between Led Zeppelin and grunge). gekizetsu was across the table, and I got to sign her autograph book (with my really terrible writing) but did not get to talk (shout) to her or maygra or destina at all. However, girlguidejones found me, and we were off for much of the rest of the weekend!

The Vid show was fantastic, and included the hilarious "Cheer Up, Emo Kid" (oh Sammy, your bitchfaces rock) and deirdre_c's "Things That Make You Go Hhhhmmm." destina's vid was very well-received, as was "Women's Work" and "Falling For The First Time." Sam/Dean kiss-manip—whoo! It still makes my heart skip.

Saturday— during the morning blur, I talked with some of the wonderful people I'd met on Friday. I got to spend some time with gekizetsu talking about RL stuff, which was probably our least cracktastic discussion over the weekend. Barb is both adorable and far more hilarious than her online self (now doesn't that tell you something?). Two panels, "Gen, Het and MarySue" (mostly about females in SPN fanfiction, very interesting) and "Winchesters, ethics and morality" (lots of discussion about John there, which didn't surprise me at all, though I didn't realize anyone actually thought he was batshit. Obsessed and conflicted, yes, but that's not the same as crazy to me. Even Gordon (who is much less stable than John) isn't actually crazy.

Lunch in between panels, with gigglingkat, huggenkiss, and laser_radiation, who are all on an spn_roadtrip together and having a fabulous time. Somehow, we wound up discussing crackFic. I do not know how that happens.

I visited The Roadhouse again, where I immediately lost missyjack when she offered to tend bar. I tried some variant on Purple Nurples, which tasted kind of good and were very potent. Some chatting with derryderrydown, black_regalia, _sin_attract and marishna, and the room went from lightly-packed to crowded and back several times, but I did get to meet wendy, azewewish, and phalballa (she and I lamented the fact that babyofthegroup had not come to the Con, darn it.) I went back to the bar lounge for some reason, probably out of a sense that either missyjack or gekizetsu would be there, inventing crack. Barb was definitely there, and the time-wasting was excellent.

Broke off generating crack to have dinner, with Barb, taliesin, destina, tenaciousmetoo, brynwulf, minotaurs and maygra. Could only talk to half the table, due to noise and distance. But no karaoke!

Afterwards, I met grayscaled while she was taking incriminating photos with Barb. Then a bunch of us went to the lounge and things got really cracktastic. We had gekizetsu, grayscaled, storydivagirl for awhile, taliesin, eponin10, scarlett_o, and mumbles11 (when the Red Sox game turned sour). I got to hear the epic story of cat vs. infinite pretzels all over the floor, and the source of the phrase "fuckjillion." Bandslash was discussed by 50% of the crowd while the rest of us wore our "Huh?" faces. Also, Barb likes to terrorize her neighbors… in a way that would make for a fine movie script idea, IMO.

Sunday morning I had breakfast with nymeria and esorlehcar (until they had to go to the airport), girlguidejones, destina, the lovely killabeez (fangirl swoon), rositimia, and lierdumoa (who is a Vid specialist, and has a Dean video in the works). We talked about Sam and Dean's parent/child dynamic quite a bit, and how that's reflected in psychological discourse on younger children being unintentionally held back from competence by older siblings who do too much for them (killabeez has a book on this). Also discussed vidding a little, which was great as I know zip about it.

More lounge time with Barb and the gang from the night before, joined by missyjack, winterlive, and ryuutchi (who had Japanese candy to share!). We enjoyed the win_non_con entries for this year, and got to see last year's winning entry by grayscaled's team. Check out part 10, the excellent response to "Who Is Chad Michael Murray?" I think he's more of a What than a Who there. :)

Had to pull my luggage out of the room next to The Roadhouse, but it gave me a chance to chat with poisontaster, so that was all good. She looks great. :)

After a late lunch (where maygra was present at the other end of the table, so I still didn't get a chance for a really good conversation), it was time to head to the airport. I got in an official Hello to mona1347 while waiting for the shuttle, and got to talk to sylvia_bond and amothea again briefly before having to run off. *sniffle*

However, like a surprise coda in a thriller movie, I wound up in the bathroom line behind unperfectwolf at the airport, and we chatted there. Hah!

It was a fabulous and exhausting trip, well worth the time and money, and I'm sorry it's over so soon. Great to meet you all, and those of you I didn't get a chance to meet (like gelasius)… I hope the chance will come another time. ♥



No, I don't have pictures up yet. My computer was not in the mood to activate the "Download pictures" function. I'll post them when I get them, unless I look like cr*p...

I did, however, update my Penguin Break CrackFic entry, since I mentioned it to a few people and I'm hoping they'll peek at it. Updates were because (do not mock my lack of graphic skills!) I'm a giant dork who finally realized that the "remove red eye" feature of Ulead has other uses...


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black_regalia on October 16th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
Man. You have a much better memory than me. I'm trying to write my report right now, and I keep coming to sections where I'm like "And then I hung out with these super awesome people whose names I can't remember...crap."

I can see their faces! Just not their badges. *sigh*
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 16th, 2007 09:00 pm (UTC)
I only had a few blank spots, which was great-- because dayum, but there are a lot of people in that list! Not to mention the ones whose LJ-names flash before me but whom I really don't know at all, like denyce or fashes and such. I only had to track one person down, though the spellings of some of those names... now there's a challenge!
Steffi: Supernatural - Sam Gun Custom Madelegoline on October 16th, 2007 09:40 pm (UTC)
That sounds an awful lot like "Wincon - where the cool people go" ... why are plane tickets so expensive? It's not fair!
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on October 16th, 2007 09:50 pm (UTC)
I had a short flight via Southwest, so I booked about 6 weeks ago. But there were some people who were braver than I, waiting until very late in the game to spring for $200.00 flight specials. Some of the ladies from back east got those, and I know _sin_attract chose to drive to the 2-hour-away airport in Virginia instead of the 30-minutes-away one because the difference in fare was significant.

It's all where you live, I'm convinced.

Sorry we missed you, though! If we can squeak out another season of the show, there could be a chance...
Steffi: Supernatural - Dean Sam AHBL Custom Madelegoline on October 16th, 2007 09:56 pm (UTC)
Even still, I think a flight from Germany might be much more expensive. :-) It's just weird to read your account and all those names you know from fandom and realising, "Wow, I'm never going to meet these people. Ever."

We've got some coolpeople in Europe, and I think Asylum 2 is going to be fun, but yes, I guess the heart of fandom is in the US.

If we can squeak out another season of the show, there could be a chance...

Only if I win the lottery, I'm afraid...
Queen of Musicdove95 on October 16th, 2007 09:43 pm (UTC)
Totally friending you btw! Nice report :) I'm working on mine as we speak.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
I remembered almost everyone, I think, which was a major feat looking at all the different names!

But I got to have some decent quality time with a lot of groups of different people, and that was really great-- much better than I expected. :)

We must tackle CJ to the Internet-based ground until she caves in for House. I can nag with the best of them. ;)
I can read Sam's mindwendy on October 16th, 2007 10:03 pm (UTC)
It was so awesome to get to meet you in-person! *huge hugs*
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
You too, and it looked like you were having a fabulous time. AND got the roomate situation straightened out! :D
she said mysteriously: boy like meresounding_echo on October 16th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, lady, it sounds like you had quite the time. :D

I knew I should have went--it sounds like it was utterly fantastic. This year, however, was a phyiscal impossibility for me so here's hoping they do it again.

:waits impatiently for pictures:
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
You should have come! Clex came from Arizona! Though school and $$ and such can be prohibitive. Would have been great to meet you. :)
she said mysteriouslyresounding_echo on October 17th, 2007 01:45 am (UTC)
If I were not graduating this semester (and thus in the throes of my honors thesis), I really would have. I would have liked to meet you as well. :)
IDK, my BFF Jared Leto?: huggins.gekizetsu on October 16th, 2007 11:03 pm (UTC)
I am SO GLAD I finally got to meet you. You are AMAZING. I'm still barely coherent. Thank you so much for the beer and the good talk. I wish we lived closer.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: SN Lovershalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC)
It was fantastic, and though I barely saw you the first day things really picked up from there.

You're more amazing still, and even funnier than online, which hardly seems possible! I wish you were closer too-- if only I were in Portland, though that's probably not going to be until after retirement (years and years from now). Because I do not delude myself that anyone wants to move to the furnace Sacramento. Heck, I wouldn't be here except for our jobs (I lurve my job). :D

At least we have each other's email addys now, and I sent you some crack links to either sustain you or flatten you with laughter. ;) *hugs and flailing*
Rachel_sin_attract on October 17th, 2007 01:22 am (UTC)
OMG. I don't know HOW you remember all these LJ names! It was hard enough for me to remember the 8 outside my posse! :P

It was EXCELLENT getting to meet you this past weekend!
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
I can remember them because of the nametags, I think (I'm more of a visual learner). If people spoke them to me, they'd be gone within about 40 seconds. ;)

So glad we got to meet, and I hope the modeling takes off with a new agent and new portfolio. In and amongst school and your other Con travels-- you lead a busy life!
Rachel_sin_attract on October 18th, 2007 03:06 am (UTC)
Hee! Thanks! I hope so too! I like to stay busy, that's for sure! :)

Here's hoping we'll meet again in 2008!
Pheebs1pheebs1 on October 17th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC)
What a thorough write up! I am jealous of all your meets, sounds lik you had a FAB time!
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 05:09 pm (UTC)
It was fantastic, despite my being prone to some shyness and my fangirliness mainly extending only to the point where I write fic. But as it turns out, many other people there were also shy, and that changes the common ground.

I so wish you'd made it. You were on the continent, at least!
Still Waiting For My Jetpack: supernatural - dean&john (family)azewewish on October 17th, 2007 05:53 am (UTC)
*HUGS*

It was great to finally meet you. And I swear, man, next year, John is totally getting his own panel. *g*
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 05:16 pm (UTC)
You too! I'm always pleased to meet more redheads in general (though I'm a really faded red), and you were awesomely pretty and tall too.

John and Jo are, I swear, the most divisive characters in the fandom thus far. People tend to either love them or hate them, though with John in particular there seems to be less of a tendency to see him in a moderate way-- e.g., the whole concept that you can damage your kids without ever meaning to, that sometimes the choices you make have negative consequences as a side-effect. "Abusive" is too strong a word (and really inflammatory). But it's possible to be a good person and a bad parent, even when you love your children desperately and don't realize that the choices you're making are bad for them.

I think John may simply be too human for us to deal with! And doesn't that ever make for great television. :D
Still Waiting For My Jetpack: supernatural - john (dogtags)azewewish on October 17th, 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
N'awww, thank you so much, baby!!! ♥


And yes, exactly. It IS possible to make bad choices for all the right reasons, and yeah, that's what John did (boy did he ever at times *g*). But I'm sure he also made good choices, too, and he laid the groundwork for Sam & Dean to become the decent men & hunters that they are.

I think that one of the reasons John got killed off was that he was simply too complex for a supporting character. *g*
Destinadestina on October 17th, 2007 07:53 am (UTC)
It was really wonderful to meet you, though I fear I disappointed you somehow when we did have a chance to talk. There were parts of this weekend I was kind of not at my best, which had nothing to do with the con. Just my general exhaustion. :) Anyway, you were just as wonderful as I expected, and I'm glad you had an excellent con.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 17th, 2007 05:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, please don't feel bad. You've had a terrible year in general, and I entirely understand the problem of crowds (or general people exposure) being overwhelming and just tiring. I've been there, truly.

It was so great to meet you in person, and I hope you had a good time and were glad you came. Plus, your video was fantastic. :D
Little Australian Bundle Of Delightful Joy: J2huggenkiss on October 18th, 2007 03:57 am (UTC)
DRIVE BY HUG! *hugs* HI HI HI HI HI! *runs away*
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on October 18th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC)
Hee! So nice to meet you in person, and I can guarantee that your personality alone means you'll have a fabulous time doing pretty much anything anywhere. \o/

Enjoy the rest of the trip! *hugs through the open window as the car takes off*
Little Australian Bundle Of Delightful Joy: Fangirlshuggenkiss on October 18th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
Aww, thank you! It was so awesome to meet you in person and I am so happy that we got to spend some time together! I will try not to lurk as much from now on! Hee!