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21 February 2007 @ 05:34 pm
The weekend, the spoilers, the rambling. What else is new?  
I survived 4 days with the kids, and no babysitter for a date (which happens EVERY holiday weekend, and kind of makes me nuts). We haven't had a date in a month due to the babysitter getting a job that will be resume-meaningful later, so I have a new project to work on. :(

Saw Freaky Friday this last weekend (the newer one). Better than I expected, though mainly for Jamie Lee Curtis and not Lindsay Lohan (bleh. I think her talent has been overestimated). I miss the "Boris" character from the book (there was a nod to him), but they've updated the story a little. I also found Chad Michael Murray kind of hot in that movie (his character was sweet), and now I feel all dirty and self-hating for it. :0


Monday's Prison Break:
I purely hate where the Sara/Michael thing is going (makes me go ook), but you all knew that.

Should I be disturbed that I was rooting (loudly) for Michael to run down Agent Kim with the car? I was beyond thrilled that he actually DID it! (Hi, alazysod! *waves* I totally thought of you during that scene). I also loved that Sara and Lincoln locked Kellerman out of the car during the getaway. Heh-heh.

On the bittersweet side, I so very much love Henry Pope, and this episode reminded me of all the characterization and emotional complexity we've lost in Season 2 vs. Season 1. This one is more of a thrill ride, but I very much liked the character/drama aspect of Season 1, and it really isn't here anymore.


Supernatural Tall Tales:
Such a fun episode, though more cartoonish than I expected. I love the alien detour very much (the slow-dancing under the disco ball was priceless). Dean ramming his mouth full of stuff until he looked like a gorilla was the first time the boy has been a turn-off to me. ;)

My love for Bobby grew in this episode, even though it really didn't seem appropriate to haul him all the way out there for something like this. Remember when the boys used to be smart in Season 1, and could figure stuff out? Yeah. Me too.

One thing I DID love, like all of you, was the wrestling on the bed scene. But not for the Wincesty-fantasies it could provoke (surprise!). Instead, what I loved (and probably shouldn't) was that rather than two highly-skilled hunters in hand-to-hand combat, we saw a pair of goofballs going at it like flailing four-year-olds. That just cracked me up-- mainly for the thought that sometimes, no matter how old we are and what we've learned, we still revert to our kid-selves at times. ;)


On the home front, my son had his extra baby tooth pulled yesterday. It was long and freakish, because the root doesn't dissolve when you pull it out. Ook.

And... my 9-year-old daughter has gone overboard with interrogating the Tooth Fairy. I was surprised the first time-- a very polite, "What is your name? How old are you? Please answer only if you want to."

Now we're down to "My name is ___. I am ____ years old. My birthdate is ____." and a few other questions I didn't even read, crouched in the hallway in the dark outside Christopher's room.

Well! Since Lauren had 2 teeth pulled herself a few weeks ago, there have been several Tooth Fairy visits. One from "Mirelle," who is 128. One from "Bisette," who is 97. And this last on from "Jondrel," who is 2-symbol-symbol years old.

So there. :)


Also? New Plastic!Winchester Theatre tonight! Yay!



 
 
 
alazysod on February 22nd, 2007 02:15 am (UTC)
*waves back* Shucks, thanks. :D That scene was beyond awesome.

Dean ramming his mouth full of stuff until he looked like a gorilla was the first time the boy has been a turn-off to me. ;)
Bwaha! It was amazing how much he could fit in his mouth. /perving

Oh, and on the CMM thing – yeah, he's really, really hot. I practically died during House of Wax.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: PB slashhalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 07:21 am (UTC)
That scene was beyond awesome.
*glee!* First, that Michael did it. :D And second, that he wasn't half-hearted about it at all. Whammo! I truly hate agent Kim to an impressive degree. ;)

Oh, and on the CMM thing – yeah, he's really, really hot. I practically died during House of Wax.
Well, you're definitely a better age for him than me. ;) So close to his would-be wives' ages, even. Right now, with the short hair, he looks like a fuzzy owl, which is NOT hot. And I kind of hate him, so I feel "ew" at any attraction to him!
BEWARE OF JENMAR.: SPN - Crazy Dangerous & Expertly Trainedclex_monkie89 on February 22nd, 2007 02:18 am (UTC)
Remember when the boys used to be smart in Season 1, and could figure stuff out? Yeah. Me too.

I actually liked that they had to pull him in. They were both so mad and irritated with each other that they couldn't even think straight. Something that comes as natural to them as pissing in the toilet had them completely boggled because family always fucks you up worse then anything else.

Yellow Eyed Demon after you? Whatever. FBI on your ass? Easy. Brother pissing you off? MOGTHISMEANSWAR!
BEWARE OF JENMAR.: SPN - Facepalm - Deanclex_monkie89 on February 22nd, 2007 02:19 am (UTC)
Also I feel the need to state, for no reason, that I am one of the laziest people ever and will get around to finding myself an Ash icon and a Bobby icon someday eventually.
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The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 07:22 am (UTC)
Brother pissing you off? MOGTHISMEANSWAR!
Ha-ha! Now THIS perspective I like. :D

Still want to see a little more love and a little less bitching between the boys. And by love, I mean tenderness and not those talky moments that make my shoulders climb up toward my ears. Show, don't tell. For the love of GOD, don't tell. Ack.
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I'm for wine and the embrace of questionable women: lincmissyjack on February 22nd, 2007 02:21 am (UTC)
Dean ramming his mouth full of stuff until he looked like a gorilla will never cease to make me laugh. I wonder if this is a common sight at lunchtime on the set...

Prison break...definitely plot at expense of characters. Dear writers Mi/Sa is not an acceptable subsitute for proper character development. And where's all the exploration of brotherly dynamics (see Supernatural and Heroes)
Great to see Pope again tho.



The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: PB Final Hughalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 07:28 am (UTC)
will never cease to make me laugh. I wonder if this is a common sight at lunchtime on the set...
Oh, god. Actually, that doesn't seem very Jensen to me. He doesn't seem particularly "loud" in his behavior except when he's trying to impress someone holding a camera, and then it's a little forced. Now, Jared on the other hand? The Dork!Dance says it all... ;)

Dear writers Mi/Sa is not an acceptable subsitute for proper character development.
Oh, god-- not only that, but it DESTROYS the believability of both characters involved, so it works against the whole point. Not to mention that, if your viewer does not LIKE Mi/Sara, then putting the weight of the show on that is a bad, bad idea. My husband tuned in randomly a few weeks ago, and "What's this crap? Why are the writers going there?"

And where's all the exploration of brotherly dynamics?
Yes-- remember what the main premise of the show was about? Michael and Lincoln are more than road-trip sidekicks, you know? And yet that's what they've become to each other. So it totally makes sense that Michael would risk life and limb (and toes) to save Lincoln's life and all-- just to keep from being bored. Right.

Pope, though... loved him last year, love him now. Love Stacy Keach being Pope.

Did I ever tell you about my random love for Quinn the assassin? *sigh* Good times, good times.
she said mysteriously: ties that bindresounding_echo on February 22nd, 2007 05:45 am (UTC)
As far as them calling Bobby, I think it made sense in the context of the episode. I mean, Bobby even says that the Trickster has gotten to them so badly that if they could "pull [their] heads outta [their] asses" they would have figured it out. It was a nice foresight in the writer's part (I like John Shiban...even if he does steal from Vince Gilligan. /XF geekage). What *does* bother me is the boys calling Ellen/Jo/Ash/Bobby over every freakin' thing in every freakin' ep this season. 'Cause yeah--last season? Dean only called John when they found themselves directly faced with their own past. I think Dean especially would be hesistant to be calling the Road House every job. On the plus side, the side comment Jo made about Dean not going to call her gives me hope--not that it's the death of the pairing (if anything, it makes the pairing more palatable to me) but that maybe they won't show up as regularly. Because really, all I want is Sam&Dean in all their gen and brotherly glory.

Agreed on the wrestling bit. I loved it for its just oozing siblingness (I have five siblings, so I love when sibling stuff is written and written well) and the freaking immaturity of it all. :D
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Sam & Dean Genhalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 07:33 am (UTC)
What *does* bother me is the boys calling Ellen/Jo/Ash/Bobby over every freakin' thing in every freakin' ep this season. 'Cause yeah--last season? Dean only called John when they found themselves directly faced with their own past.
That's mainly why it bothers me. Calling Bobby out of the blue for this one humor episode I could face. Calling Ellen and Jo (virtual strangers) all the time for dumbass stuff that they could figure out on their own just bugs the hell out of me. They weren't dumb last season, and they shouldn't suddenly be dumber now.

Because really, all I want is Sam&Dean in all their gen and brotherly glory.
THAT is really what the show is about to me too (and most of the viewers). The rest is a fun and/or spooky backdrop to hang that exploration and drama on, but the show really is just those two brothers and how they relate to each other and what's waiting for them out there. The rest is window decoration (so stop throwing up the ruffles and the plaid curtains, for crying out loud).

I loved it for its just oozing siblingness
:D Exactly that. Like two kids that are either getting into trouble together or scheming together, and heaven help their parents. And it's especially cute because Dean is 4 years older than Sam, and you just bet they could have used a few more of those goofy free-for-all moments all those years ago. :)

elanurel: Smirkelanurel on February 22nd, 2007 06:07 am (UTC)
I actually had some very, er, smutty dreams featuring CMM after I saw Freaky Friday...
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: JSquaredLovehalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 07:34 am (UTC)
Oh, thank heavens it isn't just me!

I don't like him. He bugs me-- just looks like a smug jerk all the time. Plus, the fuzzy hair thing is stupid. But in that movie, with the longer hair and the sweet character... whole different impression, and I kind of hate myself for even thinking it! :0
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The Good, The Bad and The Lanathelana on February 22nd, 2007 11:56 am (UTC)
I remember I was very much attracted to the complexity, the web of relationships in season 1. Michael having to form a relationships with a variety of people and those people also having or forming relationships amongst each other (like T-Bag/Abruzzi; or even just random things like Sucre and Abruzzi drilling into the wall together, C-Note and T-Bag playing cards for money together, Lincoln and T-Bag clashing during the riots).

I think there is always a temptations with OMG OTP!!! ships, whether we are talking fanfiction writers or professional writers, to make them emotionally exclusive. It's just a romantic concept to have two characters who are completely and only about each other (hey, you yourself like it with SamnDean), but to me that has always, especially when it's done in canon [excluding movies which are over on time and that have only limited time to explore other relationships anyway] rather poor and depressing. I have no problem with exclusive romantic (or with a character having just one romantic relationship in canon) relationships, but I find it unsatisfying when that's the only thing the characters have to offer to the show. Just because characater A really loves character B doesn't mean that he/she can't have important and emotionally resonating relationships with other people. (for example, just because Buffy is with Angel doesn't mean that she can't have a deep friendship with Xander and Willow, a snark relationship with Cordelia, moral friction with Faith and mentor friendship with Giles) Personally, I need this kind of character and show complexity in order to enjoy a show. And that kind of story and romance are not mutually exclusive (I've liked tons of shows that had a romantic angle; though I find I'm likely to enjoy shows where characters can have several relationships after another; Buffy, Desperate Housewives, DS9). The problem is taking one story and blowing it up so big that it smothers everything else (cough, I'm looking at you Veronica/Logan; Jim/Pam is slowly getting there even if the writers don't mean it to). It's pretty much when I say the shipping can make the show (and the characters involved) poorer. From a shipping POV it's romantic if characters only care about each other. To me, from a viewer POV, it's boring and makes the characters onesided. And of course, if there really is only one angle, only one option to a character that also means that you get no variety. If that angle doesn't appeal to you, then there is nothing else to like. If you love it beforehand, you'll be happy and if you don't you are screwed and there is nothing there for you anymore regarding the characters involved.

It's kind of ironic, back when Roswell aired I often found myself annoyed by Max/Liz, but in retrospect I actually find them a good example of how to tell a good absolute love story that works with the plot rather than hurt. It was romantic from the start, but both characters still had ambitions, you still felt that Max really cared about his siblings and that he was quite bothered with all the potential responsibilities that could come from his alien heritage, the obstacles they had were suitably big and angsty...and of course the show was cancelled on time :) I could see how Max/Liz might have been much more annoying if they had been seperated and mooning over each other for an even longer period of time.
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 10:19 pm (UTC)
I remember I was very much attracted to the complexity, the web of relationships in season 1. Michael having to form a relationships with a variety of people and those people also having or forming relationships amongst each other (like T-Bag/Abruzzi; or even just random things like Sucre and Abruzzi drilling into the wall together, C-Note and T-Bag playing cards for money together, Lincoln and T-Bag clashing during the riots).
That's a huge part of what I'm missing. And dramatic complexity too, as opposed to "run-run-holy-cow-run-run" like we're having now.

The OTP, though, of Michael/Lincoln or Sam/Dean... it's the relationship between those characters that's most compelling (and in Supernatural, it's really the whole show). For Prison Break, I need to be seeing at least SOME of it-- because all the motivations and risks in that show hinge on Lincoln being worth all that to Michael. For Supernatural, I don't want random love interests (or god forbid, sidekicks) thrown out just to create variety. If there's a good story behind them, well, yay-- Gordon! whom everybody else seems to hate. Otherwise, *cough-- Jo-- *cough*, no thanks.

It can be a Gen OTP, but that's what the show's built on.

Whereas "House" really is mainly House himself, and an ensemble of other interesting characters. The show was never intended to be House/Wilson, House/Cameron, House/Cuddy. It's House/crank-ass-snark-and-drama and other hapless victims and smart people. ;)
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Skywalker-Winchesteranakin415 on February 22nd, 2007 12:20 pm (UTC)
ok I have to admit..... CMM or as I like to refer to him as his fandom name "Mayhem" is kinda growing on me. I secretly thought he was hot in Freaky Friday & in that Cinderella Hillary Duff movie.... but watching One Tree Hill.... I dont know I still only have the hots for Nathan.

Tall tales ... I mean come on the love for that ep yah it knows no bounds... I just have to say I love Bobby to pieces !!!!

I am so behind on Prison Break ARG
The Coalition For Disturbing Metaphors: Venushalfshellvenus on February 22nd, 2007 10:20 pm (UTC)
I can't stop thinking of CMM as a total dick, and hence I hate myself for even remotely finding him attractive! Plus, I'm older, so that increases the squickiness. ;)

Yay, Bobby! He and Missouri and Gordon are the minor characters I actually find interesting.